How white nationalists fooled the media about Florida shooter
…from Politico.com – excerpted below
[ Editor’s Note: It only took a day to confirm the Florida White nationalists punked the media, and even the ADL. They fed the Florida school shooting media what they suspected they would rush to print, and they did.
This is quite a story how anonymous posters had a blast feeding hungry reporters all desperate to break a story, where the hoaxters knew that if several of them confirmed something the reporters would run it.
Better yet, they had learned that if they spoofed the ADL folks, they could use them as a blind to feed their fake Cruz story out to mass media and it worked like a dream. Almost no one questions the ADL as they might end up on a list. VT never worried about that because we already have a corporate media blackout.
The nationalists even had their own chat back channels going, sharing what they had fed reporters so others could put up fake confirming posts. Without going to journalism school they quickly taught each other how to work the scam.
What’s wrong? Simple. Media people talking to anonymous online people can easily be a circle jerked, especially with younger people who love gaming the system. But that said, there is a much bigger lesson in this for all of us.
If an unknown group of knuckleheads can pull something like this off, think long and hard what Google, Google Jigsaw, Facebook and YouTube can pull off with tons of money, skilled employees, and artificial intelligence. And worse, so far, at this point, they are totally unregulated.
As for the knuckle heads, you folks screwed up big time, having fun at the expense of a slaughter like this. If you don’t think there is some payback coming your way for this, think again. And no, it probably won’t be official. It would be from people with the talent to hunt you down simply for the fun of it, which you can understand, right? … Jim W. Dean ]
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– First published … February 16, 2018 –
ABC, AP and others ran with false information on shooter’s ties to extremist groups.
…Following misrepresentations by a white nationalist leader and coordinated efforts by internet trolls, numerous researchers and media outlets spread a seemingly false claim that the man charged with killing more than a dozen people at a Florida high school belonged to an extremist group.
…Law enforcement agencies say they have no evidence so far to support this claim, and the rumor appears to have been perpetrated by white nationalist trolls themselves.
…Some outlets reported they had their own conversations with Jereb or classmates of Cruz who allegedly corroborated the association of Cruz with ROF.
…But a few hours later, after law enforcement agencies said they had no evidence linking Cruz to ROF, Jereb said his identification of Cruz was a “misunderstanding” and that he, too, had been the subject of a “prank.” On online forums and Twitter, trolls and white nationalists gloated at the disinformation they had sowed.
…Donovan called this an instance of “source hacking,” a tactic by which fringe groups coordinate to feed false information to authoritative sources such as ADL researchers. These experts, in turn, disseminate the information to reporters.
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The TV media is being flooded with the old, lengthy tear jerker, survivors of the Holocaust money laundering commercial.
I hope you guys aren’t homicide detectives. Gajewski has valuable data. Just because ideology does not align does not mean there is no value. Eduardo, what happened to love cures all ?
I’ll say this about Eric, he has fortitude and conviction. A sign of quality of character. He stands up for what he believes. Just because I don’t agree with the origin of his beliefs certainly does not mean he does not have my respect.
H.R. 4918 – 115th Congress: https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/house-bill/4918/text?r=3
Congress finds the following:
(1) White supremacists and other right-wing extremists are the most significant domestic terrorism threat facing the United States.
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(5) The Anti-Defamation League’s Center on Extremism found…
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(6) According to the Southern Poverty Law Center, …
So the same clowns who fell for the fake news “White Supremacist” narrative in the Parkland HS shooting want to declare “White supremacists and right-wing extremists” (basically anyone who thinks it’s OK to be white) are terrorists.
Read this bill.
I agree with #1 and so does the evidence. Pride in race is a good thing, unless it becomes a point of supremacy to the detriment of others based on race alone. The threat is not the standard variety street thug that yells the N word at the passing cars, it is the groups that form to embrace the notion as a political movement. Which in the US is ridiculous and stubbornly unaware of the surroundings. Yet there it is, in circles of wealth and highly “educated” people, as well as the country folk. Nobody forced them to view others that way, they choose it. It is their choice. America started as horrifically racist, but it will not finish that way. It is one of the many messes that need to be cleaned up. We are witnessing it.
(1) “White supremacists and other right-wing extremists are the most significant domestic terrorism threat facing the United States.”
Riddle me this..Who was it that brought down the WTC on 9/11 and then dragged America into their perpetual wars in the Middle East? Who is it that runs the largest spy ring in American history and traces all USG and domestic phone calls through Amdocs? Who steals and sells sensitive information to foreign adversaries? Who buys unrivaled influence in government and other authoritative positions via their 300+ intimidating lobby groups? Who dictates the dispensation of information by owning and controlling the media, to insure their evil deeds are never publicized? Who is it that set up and runs the institution that controls the issuance of US currency and has spent the last 105 years destroying the US economy from the inside out? Who is it that managed and sponsored Trump’s campaign and put him in the White House, so he could do their bidding? I’ll give you a couple hints, they have dual citizenship so they can flee the country to avoid prosecution and they are not “White Nationalists”. This is the most significant domestic terrorism threat facing the US.
Trump just won the presidency by emboldening the group. The world disagrees with you.,.. and now you know why I pushed you back when you tried to get cuddly buddy …. I spotted you from far away. You are not fooling anyone.
Hmm,. I remember a while back, some talk among law enforcement making infiltrating these groups a priority especially when it is common knowledge they also have mucho guns. The odds that someone from law enforcement has not been inside this group is low. Maybe there is more than one thing going on here, but the original statement and walk back is interesting. If it got out that someone was in there, even if under cover, it could look bad. Why walk it back, at all.. they guy clearly is no stranger to police and he clearly doesn’t just Not do things that might tarnish his image.. but it all makes sense if he had supporters from police that were actually down with the group. It wasn’t a racial crime, so ..and. it’s not like there are no racist cops in Florida.
I am suggesting that we keep our mind open that some cops were willing members outside official duty.
Johnny, 50 bucks says I’ve logged more volunteer hours in more different churches than you have logged in churches period. I tried them all. You say I hate, … I say religions are not people. They are corporate entities that seek to use everything you are willing to give. and they smile when you defend them just like a street con.
Here’s a hint. 100% of so called white nationalist orgs are if not Created by Jews and/or the FBI they are heavily infiltrated by Jews and the FBI. Now I will read the article.
VT was duped too.
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