Russia-Israel Showdown on S-300s Continues


… from Press TV, Tehran

Editor’s Note: Netanyahu has himself in a bind with Russia and is trying to put the genie back in the bottle, which might not be possible.

The technically plagued F-35

It seems that killing a Russian surveillance plane and crew crossed a blaring red line with Russia, which should come as a surprise to no one. The Israel-Russia Mideast relationship has changed; and Israel, which probably had the US’ approval for the shoot down, realizes it miscalculated.

The US showed its involvement by the statement below that more F-35’s would be “supplied” to Israel – a strange term, as usually these are sold to countries that want them. Will the US be “supplying pilots” also – or maybe even advanced electronics that can defeat the Russian jamming?

That is why I used the term “showdown” in the title, as modern air war is primarily an electronic warfare (EW) battle. No matter how well the planes can maneuver, if the other side has better EW, the planes will be turned into scrap metal in a jiffy.

Would the US want to risk losing an F-35 in an attack on Syria and reveal its vulnerability when the F-35 is the mother of all cost overrun defense boondoggles? Or, does the US have EW superiority that it has been saving exposure of until it is critically needed, and this might be that time?

It would seem that something in the Russian system does not lick boots the same way that President Johnson did in 1967 when Israel tried to sink the USS Liberty — plus Russians have a tendency not to be sheeple. Oh yes, that.

Does Russia want to take the risk now of the possibility of its EW being defeated? We may be finding out much sooner than anyone expected.

I reported early after the shoot down that, when Putin had first put out a statement about the incident being the result of a chain of errors, the Russian military command, in an unusual move, stepped in immediately with their own statement to refute Putin’s.

The Russian threat below, that Israel should “exercise good judgement” in the new S-300 environment, would indicate that Israel would lose planes should it continue to push the envelope, that Israeli pilots would die, and then Netanyahu and the Israeli military can deal with that with the Israeli public Jim W. Dean ]

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– First published … October 07, 2018

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu says he will soon meet President Vladimir Putin amid tensions over the downing of a Russian aircraft during Israel’s bombing of Syria last month.

Netanyahu made the announcement at a cabinet meeting on Sunday, without citing a specific date or venue for the talks with Putin.

Netanyahu has traveled to Russia several times in the past in order to mollify Moscow over frequent Israeli airstrikes in Syria under the pretext of confronting Iran and Lebanon’s Hezbollah.

Last month, Israel angered Putin after a Russian Il-20 reconnaissance aircraft was shot down and all 15 servicemen on board were killed during Israeli airstrikes in the northwestern Syrian province of Latakia.

The Russian leader held Israel responsible for the downing and ordered the delivery of advanced S-300 missile system to Syria, which Netanyahu had successfully prevented in the past with his visits to Moscow.

Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu told Putin during a meeting on Tuesday that the delivery of the surface-to-air missile system to Syria had been completed.

Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Sergei Vershinin told Sputnik news agency on Thursday that the delivery of the S-300 systems will be followed by additional steps, but did not provide any further details.

He also issued a veiled warning to Israel, saying Russia hoped the Tel Aviv regime would exercise “good judgment” on the shipment of the S-300 batteries to Syria and other steps being taken.

PressTV-Russia urges Israel’s ‘good judgment’ on S-300 delivery

Russia urges Israel to exercise good judgment on Moscow’s delivery of S-300 missile defense system to Syria.

Russia will further start to electronically jam aircraft flying in to attack targets in Syria, Minister Shoigu said last Sunday.

“We are convinced that these measures will calm down some hotheads and keep them from careless actions which pose a threat to our troops,” he said.

Netanyahu had earlier warned that giving the S-300 to Syria was “irresponsible,” and vowed to continue airstrikes against what he called Iran-related targets in Syria.

A senior Israeli official has admitted that Russia’s delivery of the systems to Damascus would pose a serious “challenge” to Tel Aviv.

General Joseph Votel, who heads the US Central Command in the Middle East, called the Russian deployment of advanced anti-aircraft missiles in Syria a “needless escalation”.

The delivery of the anti-aircraft batteries constitutes a game-changer in the seven-year-old war in Syria, with Israel and the United States trying to adjust to the new realities.

Israeli intelligence website DEBKAfile reported on Saturday that the United States had decided to provide Israel with more F-35 stealth fighter jets in response to Russian measures in Syria.


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  1. There’s a term for Talmudic logic: pilpulism. In The Controversy of Zion, Douglas Reed wrote:
    “What was actually permitted in the synagogues and schools was a unique form of dialectics, designed still further to strengthen the edifice of The Law. The disputants were merely allowed to prove that anything was legal under the Talmud; one debater would state a proposition and another the contrary, each demonstrating that The Law allowed it!
    “This practice (the brothers Thoreau [i.e., Jean and Jérôme Tharaud] give glimpses of it in their books) was called ‘pilpulism.’ It gives the key to a mystery which often baffles Gentiles: the agility with which Zionists are often able to justify, in themselves, precisely what they reproach in others. A polemist trained in pilpulism would have no difficulty in showing the Judaic law ordaining the enslavement of household Gentiles to be righteous and the Roman ban on the enslavement of Christians by Jewish masters to be ‘persecution’; the Judaic ban on intermarriage to be ‘voluntary separation’ and any Gentile counter-ban to be ‘discrimination based in prejudice’ (Dr. Kastein’s terms); a massacre of Arabs to be rightful under The Law and a massacre of Jews to be wrongful under any law.”

  2. The day will come when the Talmud is forbidden worldwide and the Sons of Satan no longer walk the Earth. A Judaism without Khazars and Pharisees, only Semites, the true Hebrews practicing the Torah.

  3. Military coup is the most likely solution. What USA citizens need to do is communicate ahead of time to the USA military – What is a legitimate coup. A coup that immediately returns the Bill of Rights and abolishes the Jewish Banking Cartel and does not attack gun rights, these are examples of a legitimate coup. These need to be further worked and communicated to our military.

  4. The JSF is actually an old plane. The reason being is that it’s profile is based on defeating 90’s radars. While the JSF airframe is fixed in time radar and missile technologies have advanced considerably. On top of that the US has never operated in a hostile coms environment and don’t forget that very hot single big engine that will stick out like dogs nuts to IR capable missiles.

  5. Well, all the time they boast about easy trip over S300 and its capabilities, but that criminal Bb visits Moscow like to his home. It means smth of a greater scale than it was before… Suddenly the chief Rabbi in Russia – Berl Lazar – showed great regret about our S300 to Syria. Oh, how come, little rat in the hat! Where he was when Il-20 was hit… Of course, Russians gave best comments to that rabbi – where to buy the cheapest rope and soap.
    In general, i’m very angry at Moses as gps navigator in the desert. Russian Ivan Susanin (historical fact about Polish intruders) could be a far more better “guide” for this mad tribe.
    P.s. Ok, Bibi to the hell, i’d better wait for the news who drills the holes in the Russian segment of Intrn’l Space Station.

  6. I dreamed that BB traveled to Moscow, and on arrival was arrested, then turned over to a popular civilian court. Tried for, and convicted, of crimes against humanity, he was hanged by his neck from the nearest lamp post. The crowd laughed insanely when his body vacated itself. I’m told a smell, very much like sulfer, covered Red Square, and the sun shined brightly with out a break for 24 hours.

  7. Chutzpah Incarnate

    It is an incredible lack of respect for the dead fifteen Russian servicemen that Putin would entertain Netanyahu onto Russian soil within a sacred period of grieving and national mourning. Not even three weeks has gone by and this jackal comes scavenging for political points and military advantage from the carnage of his making. How must the Russian High Command feel? Maybe this is the reason Putin wants to allow Bibi visit to tell him in no uncertain terms that enough is enough and any further betrayal of so-called friendship will be met by biblical hell fire and brimstone because as of now the military has Israel under an unswerving glare and firmly fixed in its sights. Wiser heads among the IDF sense the inevitable and wince.

  8. More “On the house” high tech hardware and munitions for Israel to defend themselves……SMH..

  9. How could the IL-20 and the whole set of Russian network air defenses miss the squadron of F-16I’s coming up from the south in the Mediterranean?

    Does this not prove that Israel jammed the Russian systems?

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