Can There Be ‘Herd Immunity” Without a Vaccine?


Health Editor’s Note:  I cannot see how ‘herd immunity’ can be attained without the use of a vaccine, especially if there are no physical practices to keep people from being close to each other. Lack of restrictions on physical closeness can only lead to more infections, especially since this virus is spread so easily. The only way for the majority of a population. to have antibodies to COVID-19 is for those people to have already had COVID-19. We are experiencing that to have coronavirus can be a death sentence for some and would not be a preferred way to attain herd immunity…Carol

Sweden is still no where near ‘herd immunity,’ even though it didn’t go into lockdown

By Niamh Kennedy, CNN

(CNN)Sweden has revealed that despite adopting more relaxed measures to control coronavirus, only 7.3% of people in Stockholm had developed the antibodies needed to fight the disease by late April.

The figure, which Sweden’s Public Health Authority confirmed to CNN, is roughly similar to other countries that have data and well below the 70-90% needed to create “herd immunity” in a population.
It comes after the country adopted a very different strategy to stop the spread of coronavirus to other countries by only imposing very light restrictions on daily life.
Sweden’s chief epidemiologist Anders Tegnell said the number was a “little lower” than expected “but not remarkably lower, maybe one or a couple of percent.”
“It squares pretty well with the models we have,” he added, while speaking at a news conference in Stockholm.
The study carried out by Sweden’s Public Health Agency aims to determine the potential herd immunity in the population, based on 1,118 tests carried out in one week. It aims to carry out the same number of tests every seven days over an eight-week period. Results from other regions would be released later, a Public Health Authority spokesperson said.


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  1. A vaccine is impossible for a rapidly mutating virus like this. We don’t even have a universally effective vaccine for the flu and it still kills between 40-80K people in the US annually. Even worse, according to the Pentagon’s own studies of the 1997-8 flu season (which killed 80,000 people), the flu vaccine was seen to have made people more vulnerable to other respiratory infections, particularly from coronaviruses. I have become increasingly alarmed by Carol Duff’s agenda on this virus. It is driving away long time VT readers. What is happening here?

    • Victor, What agenda do you think I have? The vaccine is not impossible…..think Swine flu….COVID-19 is not mutating…there appears to be different strains….

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