Kiriakou told the Times his pursuit of a pardon came up during a meeting with Giuliani on another subject, at the Trump International Hotel in Washington last year.

During the meeting, which reportedly “involved substantial alcohol”, Giuliani went to the bathroom. It was then, Kiriakou said, that Giuliani’s unnamed associate told him: “It’s going to cost $2m – he’s going to want two million bucks.

UK Guardian: The report detailed widespread and in some cases lucrative lobbying involving people seeking a pardon as Trump’s time in office winds down. The 45th president, impeached twice, will leave power on Wednesday with the inauguration of Joe Biden.

The former CIA officer John Kiriakou, who was jailed in 2012 for leaking the identity of an operative involved in torture, told the Times he laughed at the remark from the associate of Giuliani, the former New York mayor who as Trump’s personal attorney is reportedly a possible pardon recipient himself.

“Two million bucks – are you out of your mind?” Kiriakou reportedly said. “Even if I had two million bucks, I wouldn’t spend it to recover a $700,000 pension.”

An associate of Kiriakou reported the conversation to the FBI, the Times said.

Trump will lose legal protection once he leaves office and faces threats both potential and already in train. He has reportedly discussed issuing pre-emptive pardons to himself, Kushner, Giuliani and other family members and close aides. It is not clear whether a self-pardon would work.



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  1. “…I wouldn’t spend it to recover a $700,000 pension…”

    I don’t agree, is an profitable investment, in less 3 years he would retrieve the Two million bucks equity and then he will have a nice permanent income. I guess Rudy, unlike him, will get a high discount in price as a reward to be a faithful clerk.

  2. Kiriakou did the right thing, and the Bush admin was rightfully outed on the rendition crap.
    So, he’s a decent candidate for a pardon, that would send a message to whistleblowers and those who would prefer to prosecute them. Just knowing he had the conversation, is good.
    I wonder now, if any pardons by trump will hold up, after being impeached for a crime against the government. And yea, good for people to learn, again, that some things that are legal, like taking fees for pardons, and just one of many holes that need to be plugged. The CIA should be defunded and dissolved. That is a no brainer.

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